president obama and chris matthews. chris will interview the president for a special edition of the "hardball" college tour from american university. tune in thursday night at 7:00 and 11:00 eastern here on msnbc. >>> and was he asleep at the wheel? william rockefeller, who was at the controllers of the train that crashed in new york sunday, has told police he, quote, zoned out. he indicated to co-workers he may have nodded off before the train sped into a dangerous curve at 82 miles an hour, nearly three times the speed limit. >> that momentary lapse, he was not able to catch in time. by the time he did and he put the controller -- took the power off and went to emergency, it was too late. >> four people were killed, more than 60 injured. the ntsb has interviewed ro rockefeller twice and says it is still too early to determine whether the cause was human error. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> it's not